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占星看婚姻次数



补充一个一个西方占星师的看法,供参考——
Carol Rushman的"The Art of Predictive Astrology"里面说到她总结的本命看结婚次数的方法~~以前有翻译过,顺便把怎么看孩子个数的那一段也放过来吧。

结婚:
说的是怎样看人的最有可能的结婚机会次数,这里不是指所有得可能求婚次数,是指命运里安排的那种。作者是西方人,环境文化和我们都不一样,所以下面的准则用在国人身上不能生套的。

女的看太阳,男的看月亮

女的为例:

本命太阳在一个星座里,按天的顺序移动太阳,太阳离开那个星座前和远地行星(火星及以后)有相位的次数,就是所有的机会。

有时候太阳和月亮的相位也会产生一次机会。水星金星与太阳的相位不一定带来婚姻,但是可能会给婚姻带来机会。

和北交的相位不一定代表一次婚姻,但肯定代表会与一个人有很深的因果。

...

生子:
和上面类似,但作者只拿了几个女命做例子,不知男命可不可以同样这么看。具体是:

看五宫主,因为5宫主子女,看法和上面看结婚次数差不多,基本上就是看五宫主所在的本命星座,移动五宫主,在离开那个星座之前的所有相位(这里我不确定是不是只看远地行星)。

有时候五宫里面落入的星星也代表将来的孩子...

还有就是,如果一个人木星落5,或者是与5宫主有很强的相位,可能这个人不是用那个规则,这个人可能多产的很。

但是现代人观念变了,birth control什么的,不可能按照命盘暗示的那样生出所有的孩子的...

看子女,第一个孩子是5宫,第二个孩子是7宫,然后就是9宫,11...所以说第二个孩子更像父亲,是因为第二个孩子反映7宫的特点,而7宫也是丈夫的宫位...

转载请注明出处和作者——中国占星同盟

开这个贴是为了总结讨论各种占星中论断婚姻的手法,欢迎跟贴~~

Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos 第五章 Marriage (蓝色字英文为原文,每一段下方有译文。意译为主,直译为辅)

With regard to men, it is to be observed in what manner the Moon may be disposed; for, in the first place, if she be found in the oriental quadrants, she will cause men either to marry early in life, or, after having over-passed their prime, to marry young women; "but, should she be situated in either of the occidental quadrants, men will then marry either late in life, or to women advanced in age.";
oriental quadrants是4,5,6,10,11,12宫,其他的是occidental quadrants。托勒密说,对于男人,月亮在本命中在oriental quadrants的倾向于早婚或者是年纪大了娶年轻女子。反之,月亮在occidental quadrants,这个男人可能结婚较晚,或是娶年龄比他大的女子。

and if she be found under the Sun's beams, and configurated with Saturn, she then entirely denies marriage.
假如月亮在太阳的强光下(under the sun's beams应该是距离太阳8度30分到17度之间,不知道Ptolemy原意有没有包括combust,也就是17分到8度30分),或者与土星有相位,则命主可能拒绝婚姻。

Secondly, should she be in a sign of single form, and in application to only one of the planets, she will cause men to marry only once; but, if she be in a bicorporeal or multiform sign, or in application to several planets, she will cause them to be married several times;
假如月亮在单一形式的星座,或是只与一个行星有相位,则命主(男人)可能只结婚一次;如果月亮在bicorporeal sign(如双子,处女,射手,双鱼),或是与几个行星都有相位,则可能结婚多次。若与吉星相位良好,则妻子们会贤惠,反之则反。

For example, if Saturn receive the Moon's application, the wives whom he will provide will be troublesome and morose; but, if Jupiter receive it, they will be decorous and economical; if Mars, bold and refractory; if Venus, cheerful, handsome, and agreeable; and, if Mercury, sensible, prudent, and clever. Moreover, should Venus be found connected with Jupiter, Saturn, or Mercury, she will render wives provident, and attached to their husbands and children; but, if she be found connected with Mars, they will be irascible, unsteady, and indiscreet. Thus far in reference to the marriage of men.
这一段是说月亮和不同行星的相位会象征妻子的何种品性。就不做翻译了。

But, in the case of women, the Sun must be observed, instead of the Moon...(略去一段)
如果是看女人的命盘,则要看太阳,参考上面,同样的论断手法。

Whenever both nativities, viz. that of the husband and that of the wife, may exhibit the luminaries configurated together in concord, that is to say, either in trine or in sextile to each other, the cohabitation will most usually be lasting; especially if the said concord exist by means of interchange; but its duration will be also much more securely established, provided the Moon in the husband's nativity should correspond or agree with the Sun in the wife's nativity. If, however, the relative positions of the
luminaries be in signs inconjunct, or in opposition, or in quartile, the cohabitation will be speedily dissolved upon slight causes, and the total separation of the parties will ensue.
从太阳和月亮位置看夫妻二人婚姻牢固程度。如果相对位置(应该是指比较盘中的相位)好,可能牢固。如果丈夫的月亮和妻子的太阳和谐则更好。然而,如果两颗照明体(日月)在成对相,四分相,或是inconjunct(现代占星中inconjunct指150度,比如白羊和天秤是150度的关系,但是记得有资料上记载托勒密笔下的inconjunct不完全为这个意思,等翻过资料以后再详注这一点),那么会有损关系的长久。

And should the configuration of the luminaries, when made in con-cord, be aspected by the benefics, the cohabitation will continue in respectability, comfort, and advantage; but, on the other hand, it will abound in strife, contention, and misfortune, if the malefics be in aspect to the said configuration.
接上一段,假如比较盘中夫妇的照明体被凶星所伤,有损婚姻;若有吉星,有助。

In like manner, even though the luminaries may not be favourably configurated in concord, should the benefits still offer testimony to them, the cohabitation will then not be entirely broken off, nor totally destroyed for ever, but will be again renewed, and re-established as before. But if, on the contrary, the malefics bear testimony to such discordant disposition of the luminaries, a dissolution of the cohabitation will take place, accompanied by scorn and injury. Should Mercury alone be conjoined with the malefics, it will be effected by means of some public inculpation; and if Venus also be found with them, it will be on the ground of adultery, or sorcery, or some similar offence.
如果照明体没有和谐相位,可以看其他行星与日月的相位。如果吉星有和谐相位,还是可以正面帮助婚姻的持久稳固的。如果照明体无和谐相位,而且有凶星作用,则反之。假如水星被凶星伤,则可能预示公开场合的指责,如果金星被凶星伤,则可能有通奸诅咒等过错。

There are, however, other varieties in the married state, which are to be contemplated by means of Venus, Mars, and Saturn. And should these planets act in familiarity with the luminaries, the cohabitation will be appropriate and domestic, and authorised by law; because Venus holds a certain affinity both to Mars and Saturn: her affinity to Mars, for instance, consists in each having exaltation in a sign belonging to the other's triplicity, and it operates in the cases of youthful and vigorous persons: while her affinity to Saturn arises from their respective houses being in the signs, again also, belonging to each other's triplicity, and relates to persons of more advanced age.
婚姻状态还有很多种类,可以通过金火土加以说明。如果金火土之间和谐,夫妇则可以相敬如宾。金星和火星土星有着很特殊的联系。金星的exaltation的位置双鱼,双鱼是火星的triplicity;火星的exaltation在摩羯,摩羯是金星的triplicity——所以金星和火星之间有一定的亲和力,它们互相作用,和年轻和活力旺盛的夫妇有关。天秤为金星的house/sign,是土星的triplicity;摩羯是土星的house/sign,是金星的triplicity——所以金星和土星之间也有亲和力。它们的作用和年龄差距大的夫妇有关。(翻译有些地方并不是直译,有加入我的理解和说明)

Hence, if Venus be in concurrence with Mars, she will produce entire love and affection in the cohabiting parties; and if Mercury also coincide with the said planets, such affection will become publicly notorious. Should Venus be found in a sign mutually common and familiar, such as Capricorn, or Pisces, she will effect marriages between brothers and sisters and kindred by blood: and, provided she be also in the presence of the Moon, when the native may be male, she will cause him to connect himself with two sisters, or other near relatives; but, if the native be a female, a similar contract on her part, with two brothers or near relatives, will be indicated, when Venus may be also with Jupiter.
所以,如果金星与火星互相作用,夫妇之间的感情会很强烈。如果水星也掺入其中,这种感情会公之于众(不了解原文为什么用notorious这个贬义词)。如果金星位于双鱼或摩羯(为什么是双鱼和摩羯?参考上一段金星火星之间关系的说明),婚姻可能会有血缘关系。如果有月亮作用,而且命主为男性,这个人可能和姐妹或近亲乱伦。如果命主为女性,根据同样的推断方法,则可能和兄弟或近亲乱伦,金星也可以和木星一起(不知道为什么最后加上木星这一句?是不是说即使有木星也并不妨碍不道德的事情发生?)。

Again, if Venus be with Saturn, the cohabitation will be established entirely in happiness and constancy; and if Mercury be present with them, it will be profitable; but, should Mars be present, it will be unsettled, calamitous, and afflicted by jealousy. And if Mars be configurated on equal terms with Venus, Saturn, and Mercury, he will effect marriage between persons of equal age; but, on the other hand, should he be more oriental, marriage will take place with a younger man or woman; and, if more occidental, with an older person. Should Venus and Saturn be found in signs common to each other, that is to say, in Capricorn and Libra, marriage will be contracted between persons kindred by blood: and, when the said position may happen in the ascendant, or in the mid-heaven, provided the Moon also should present herself there, men will become connected with their mothers, or maternal aunts, or with their mothers-in-law; and women with their own sons, or the sons of their brothers, or with their daughters' husbands. But if, instead of the Moon, the Sun should be in concurrence with the said position, and
especially should it happen that the planets in question may be occidental, men will then connect themselves with their daughters, or the wives of their sons; and women with their fathers, or paternal uncles, or the husbands of their daughters.
假如金星和土星作用,夫妇之间相处会很开心,婚姻牢固。如果水星掺进来,可获利,但是,如果火星有作用,则可能会带来不安定,嫉妒和不幸。如果火星的作用不强于金土水,会影响到两个年龄相仿的人的婚姻。如果,火星在oriental,配偶可能是年轻一些的异性,如果是occidental,则是年纪大一些的异性。如果金星和土星在摩羯和天秤,婚姻可能牵涉到血缘亲戚。如果位置在上升或中天,如果月亮也在附近,男性命主则可能和母亲,阿姨或岳母有联系;女性命主则和儿子,外甥,或是女婿有联系。但是,如果太阳代替月亮出现在那些位置,而且相关行星在occidental,男性命主则会和女儿,儿媳有联系,女性命主则会和父亲,叔叔或女婿有联系(这种"联系"我想托勒密指的是不正当关系,但是个人觉得这种判

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